Re: [NTISP] frontpage 2000 server Extensions

Jeff Woods ( jwoods@deltacomm.com )
Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:40:54 -0400

I haven't tried it yet, but the sales guff looks good:

http://www.storefront.net

At 04:05 PM 9/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Wholly Cow!
>That seems like quite a bit of work just to get FPSE 2k working.
>I just did it on my new ecom servers and didn't have that many problems.
>I have just one...hehe...SiteServer 3.0 Ecom edition doesn't like FP 2K *AT
>ALL* so instead I manually set it up after the Ecom Wizard gets done with
>it.
>
>Here's what I did for just a plain IIS 4.0 server and FPSE 2K
>
>1) installed NT service pack 5 (yes it says not to but I have more luck=
this
>way)
>2) installed IE 5 (again M$ says you should only use 4.01 sp2 but I still
>have more luck this way)
>3) installed Option Pack
>4) installed FPSE 2k from the Office 2000 disk
>5) setup the FPSE extensions in the FP MMC (just the email support stuff=
and
>"upgrade extensions")
>6) created the virtual client in a directory (D:\inetpub\virtual
>clients\client.com)
>7) Set the web site up in IIS MMC with HTTP 1.1 header settings
>8) Installed FPSE on the new web using the task menu under IIS MMC
>9) Went to my computer and started FP 2000 (only a 166 some I had time to=
do
>the other steps ;-))
>10) Added a user to either the Main NT domain or (if the computer is not a
>BDC) added a user to the local NT SAM.
>11) set the new users main NT group to my FP Authors group
>12) Went back to my computer and load new Virtual web site
>13) In FP I go to security and give author and browser to new NT user and
>remove (or reset) all other permissions the only person with Admin
>permissions is the Administrators Group
>14) Called customer and told him to user the new NT user name to edit his
>web site.
>
>As far as FP98 is concerned most of my customers have not reported any
>conflicts with the new FPSE 2K.
>and if they did I would tell them to go out and buy office 2000 just=
because
>FP 2000 is soooooooooo much better then fp98.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>P.S. I noticed someone on this thread said their customer had a good ecom
>plugin for FP 2K. I don't suppose you could email me with which one that
>was.
>
>Thanks
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jeff Woods <jwoods@deltacomm.com>
>To: <ntisp@iea-software.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 3:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [NTISP] frontpage 2000 server Extensions
>
>
> > I did the upgrade at the behest of a client who wanted to install a
> > shopping cart / E-Commerce package that claimed to require FPSE 2K. =
This
> > client brings me a LOT of hosting business, so I obliged. It BROKE the
> > existing FPSE 98 in the process, and I couldn't get FPSE 2K to allow an
> > install, for the reason I quoted below. I *did* manage to get it going
> > since, in desperation, and here's what I wrote to that client about the
> > solution. Perhaps it will help some here:
> >
> > I have SOLVED the problem for FPSE 2K by the brute force method....
> >
> > Recall:
> >
> > "Unable to create a web for the URL "/" because its root directory,
> > "d:\docs\aeicomp\" falls below the root of another web int he directory,
> > "d:\docs".
> >
> > There *is* no web at d:\docs. I've spent hours trying to solve this=
one,
> > and cannot.
> >
> > --------
> >
> > Well, turns out that the initial installation of IIS asks for the home
> > directory, where all future sites will be located. This defaults to:
> >
> > c:\iis\wwwroot (or some such tree, wwwroot being the end, on C:)
> >
> > Ick. C: sucks. 2 GB limit on the boot drive under NT, and for safety
> > and recovery, I make it a FAT drive, not NTFS (thus you can access the
> > drive by botting with a DOS floppy if you just MUST). But a FAT drive
> > cannot have any security, hence no FPSE. (No, don't think that far
>ahead
> > of me, I didn't do THAT).
> >
> > Since I couldn't abide by having the web docs stored on a non-secure FAT
> > partition, I typed in a new location where permitted, during the Option
> > Pack installation:
> >
> > D:\DOCS (A many-gigabyte NTFS partition)
> >
> > IIS then creates a DEFAULT WEB SITE in that directory! I always KILL
>that
> > site, since that's NOT what I want. I then install all directories
>under
> > that:
> >
> > D:\DOCS\DOMAIN-A
> > D:\DOCS\ANOTHER-DOMAN
> > D:\DOCS\GUESS-WHO
> >
> > Since they are all "on par" with each other, no site in a subdirectory=
of
> > another site (by definition, no "sub-webs" exist), there should be no
> > problem, right?
> >
> > WRONG.
> >
> > Remember that default web site it creates in the first directory you=
give
> > it? That was d:\docs, right? Well, I removed the site from the IIS
>Admin
> > pages using the MMC console, so there shouldn't be a front page web
> > there. But THERE WAS.
> >
> > Deep inspection found _vti_cnf and other _vti* directories in d:\docs,=
the
> > usual hidden directories. I didn't think to look there for them,=
because
>I
> > did not remember there ever being a web installed at that "top level".
> >
> > I stopped the web server, and removed these directories. I then=
re-BOOTED
> > the web server, and again tried to apply FPSE 2K to the site.
> >
> > I did *not* get the error from before, and I do seem to have the ability
>to
> > now use the FPSE 2K tab in the MMC console, which I never could do=
before.
> >
> > I have also been able to open the web (as Administrator) using FP98, and
> > have confirmed that the NT SAM account has proper permissions even now.
> >
> > At 12:28 PM 9/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
> > >I am sure FP98SE do not support all 2000 functions, but FP2000 on the
>client
> > >end will interface fine with the FP98SE. I have used it plenty lately.
> > >
> > >So, what am I missing, and why should we install the FP2000SE then?
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Jeff Woods <jwoods@deltacomm.com>
> > >To: <ntisp@iea-software.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:34 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [NTISP] frontpage 2000 server Extensions
> > >
> > >
> > > > INSTALLING isn't the problem. RUNNING is. <sigh>
> > > >
> > > > If you locate a clue, could I borrow it? Here's what I ran into:
> > > >
> > > > Install went OK, but when I try to set up FPSE2K on a site, I am=
told:
> > > >
> > > > "Unable to create a web for the URL "/" because its root directory,
> > > > "d:\docs\aeicomp\" falls below the root of another web int he
>directory,
> > > > "d:\docs".
> > > >
> > > > There *is* no web at d:\docs. I've spent hours trying to solve=
this
>one,
> > > > and cannot.
> > > >
> > > > At this point, I'm unable to even go back to FPSE98 without nuking=
the
> > > > site, either. Right now, I'm without FPSE at all, and will likely
>remain
> > >so.
> > > >
> > > > At 09:02 AM 9/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >HI
> > > > >
> > > > >Can anyone lead to some good doc. on how to install FrontPage 2000
>Server
> > > > >Extensions on to iis 4.0 server.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks
> > > > >Thomas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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