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Message 1: Re: Text backup from database - more
from "Paul Rensel" <paul@ixs.nl>

Message 2: Re: Radius not receiving logoff message
from CPD- Jr <jr@ceub.br>

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from "Anton G. Popov" <anton@unacs.bg>

Message 4: Re: Radius not receiving logoff message
from "Fernando M. Kiernan" <fkiernan@dilhard.com.ar>

Message 5: RE: Text backup from database - more
from rbryn@cape-fear.net

Message 6: compatibility of RadiusNT and Meritt
from Andy Honaker <ahonaker@CommunityChoice.net>

Message 7: radlogin
from "Lanham Rattan" <lanham@montrose.net>

Message 8: Re: radlogin
from "Dale E. Reed Jr." <daler@iea-software.com>

Message 9: Re: compatibility of RadiusNT and Meritt
from "Dale E. Reed Jr." <daler@iea-software.com>

Message 10: Re: Text backup from database - more
from "Dale E. Reed Jr." <daler@iea-software.com>

Message 11: Re: Radius not receiving logoff message
from "Dale E. Reed Jr." <daler@iea-software.com>

Message 12: Re: Radius not receiving logoff message
from "Mike Stankavich" <mike@ethergate.com>

Message 13: Re: Radius not receiving logoff message
from "Dale E. Reed Jr." <daler@iea-software.com>

Message 14: Radius dicionary
from jjw@cvc.net

Message 15: User Restrictions
from Tim Ballingall <tim@mazda.com.au>

Message 16: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAP
from "Dale E. Reed Jr." <daler@iea-software.com>

Message 17: RE: Text backup from database - more
from <rbryn@cape-fear.net>

Message 18: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAP
from "Terry Bomersbach" <terryb@the-cia.net>

Message 19: RE: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAP
from Chris Thomas <ChrisT@mbcom.com.au>

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Subject: Re: Text backup from database - more
From: "Paul Rensel" <paul@ixs.nl>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:50:28 +0200

I've made something in VB 5.0, if anybody wants it..let me know

>>> preferences? If not does anyone have an app that would do create the
text
>>> file for users?
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>>From Database is not currently supported. The radusers.exe program
>>can create a text users file from an Emerald database. Its a win32
>>console app and can be scheduled from something like SQL Executive.
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>>--
>>Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)
>>_________________________________________________________________
>> IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs
>> Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com
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Subject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff message
From: CPD- Jr <jr@ceub.br>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:13:19 -0300

Where can I get some information on how to implement these SNMP
extensions?
TIA,
JR
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> Currently, not by itself. Livingston PMs will send a reboot accounting
> message that RadiusNT knows and will clear all lines for that NAS. We
> have SNMP extensions for RadiusNT that can verify the port status on
> the fly. This has been tested with USR and Livingston gear so far. We
> are working on support for some of the others (like Ascend).
>
> --
> Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)
> _________________________________________________________________
> IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs
> Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:22:39 +0300

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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BDCAB3.A7D0D600--..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 4 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff messageFrom: "Fernando M. Kiernan" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:09:04 -0300Dale: Please give us a more detailed description of this feature(specifically for a USR-TC) because with choosed the standard versionthinnking there is not a reason to choose the Enterprise (we don't useproxy, nor plan to use SNMP), but this feature may change our point of view.Regards.Fernando KiernanImagenes Digitales S.A.-----Original Message-----From: Dale E. Reed Jr. To: radiusnt@iea-software.com Date: Lunes 17 de Agosto de 1998 16:14Subject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff messageEdsonet wrote:>> What I am asking is: "Is there any way that RadiusNT can correct the> problem without human intervention, regardless of how the problem occurred> in the first place?". For example, could it query the NAS periodically to> confirm what it has in the database? I know this is asking a lot, but I am> also sure that I am not the only one to have encountered this problem.Currently, not by itself. Livingston PMs will send a reboot accountingmessage that RadiusNT knows and will clear all lines for that NAS. Wehave SNMP extensions for RadiusNT that can verify the port status onthe fly. This has been tested with USR and Livingston gear so far. Weare working on support for some of the others (like Ascend).--Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQsInternet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 5 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: RE: Text backup from database - moreFrom: rbryn@cape-fear.netDate: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:17:54 -0400What is the proper command line syntax for radusers.exe? I'de like toschedule it but can't seem to get the right combination together to run itwithout prompting me.ThanksRobb Bryn-----Original Message-----From: radiusnt-request@iea-software.com[mailto:radiusnt-request@iea-software.com]On Behalf Of Dale E. Reed Jr.Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 6:40 PMTo: radiusnt@iea-software.comSubject: Re: Text backup from database - morePat Augustine wrote:> > I think what you are saying is that I got the wrong file. Ok, I am goingto> get the radusers in the Emerald directory as I don't wish to create> incompatibilities.I believe I incorrectly pointed to the beta, rather than the normal one.The one that is comptable with the way Emerald 2.2 and lower exportsis in the Emerald directory.-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 6 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: compatibility of RadiusNT and MerittFrom: Andy Honaker Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:39:37 -0400Trying to process a pass through authentication from a Livingston terminalserver and Merit Radius. When our RadiusNT returns the Filter, Meritignores it. I am told that this is not a simple matter of 'what' is beingreturned, but 'how' it is being returned. I am told that this is a protocolissue, and cannot be solved without rewriting the code for the server.Also, that It has to do with the way the reply packet is constructed, andis not user configurable in any way since the Livingston and Merit aresslightly incompatible when it comes to Proxy Radius Reply-Items.I find it hard to believe that the only way to do this is to use Merit on aUNIX box.Has anyone dealt with this before or have other suggestions? Is anyone ableto pass the Filter back to Merit? Thanks...------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 7 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: radloginFrom: "Lanham Rattan" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:21:12 -0600I am trying to use radlogin from the same machine that I have RadiusNT 2.5running.radlogin test testResults... Decrypted Password:j+S Database Password: testSending Reject of id 199 to cc857882 (Local Test) SQL Statement: INSERT INTO RadLogs(RadLogMsgID, LogDate, Username, Data)VALUES (11, GetDate(), 'test', j+S')ODBC Error:S0022:207: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Invalid column name 'Data'.User: test Bad PasswordUser: test Bad Password....why is the password failing. I have no secret set for the server.I would like to add the Data field (SQL) but when I tried it corrupted thedatabase. Are there any specific directions to do so.Thanks,Lanham...------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 8 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: radloginFrom: "Dale E. Reed Jr." Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:10:25 -0700Lanham Rattan wrote:> > I am trying to use radlogin from the same machine that I have RadiusNT 2.5> running.> > radlogin test test> > Results...> > Decrypted Password:j+S> Database Password: test> Sending Reject of id 199 to cc857882 (Local Test)> > SQL Statement: INSERT INTO RadLogs(RadLogMsgID, LogDate, Username, Data)> VALUE> S (11, GetDate(), 'test', j+S')> > ODBC Error:S0022:207:> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Invalid column name 'Data'.Make sure you have an entry in your servers table matching the same IPand secret in your server file for Radlogin. The secrets are notmatching,which is causing the password problem. This is covered in the "testing"section of the RadiusNT 2.5 manual. > ...why is the password failing. I have no secret set for the server.Thats exactly why. > I would like to add the Data field (SQL) but when I tried it corrupted the> database. Are there any specific directions to do so.It shouldn't corrupt it. I use a command like this is isql_w:ALTER TABLE RadLogsADD Data varchar (50) NULL DEFAULT NULLGO-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 9 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: compatibility of RadiusNT and MerittFrom: "Dale E. Reed Jr." Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:34:20 -0700Andy Honaker wrote:> > Trying to process a pass through authentication from a Livingston terminal> server and Merit Radius. When our RadiusNT returns the Filter, Merit> ignores it. I am told that this is not a simple matter of 'what' is being> returned, but 'how' it is being returned. I am told that this is a protocol> issue, and cannot be solved without rewriting the code for the server.What you are going to find out is that merit is NOT 100% RADIUScompliant,and have hacked their own requiements and resolutions into theirsoftwarethat is not RFC compliant. RadiusNT (AFAIK) is RFC compliant and workswitha wide variety of clients and servers. We have tested RadiusNT proxywithmany other RADIUS servers with great success.> Also, that It has to do with the way the reply packet is constructed, and> is not user configurable in any way since the Livingston and Merit ares> slightly incompatible when it comes to Proxy Radius Reply-Items.> I find it hard to believe that the only way to do this is to use Merit on a> UNIX box.We added some support for the Merit stuff on the accounting side so thatMerit would accept the account ACK, even though when you turn on that option it makes RadiusNT RFC non-compliant (something I hate to do).> Has anyone dealt with this before or have other suggestions? Is anyone able> to pass the Filter back to Merit?If you can be more specific about what the problem is, I might beable to help. We have resolved serveral Merit <-> RadiusNT issuesin the past (although not usually fun to do). The filter attribute isjust a string. What (or 'how') is Merit expecting for it?-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 10 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: Text backup from database - moreFrom: "Dale E. Reed Jr." Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:37:04 -0700rbryn@cape-fear.net wrote:> > What is the proper command line syntax for radusers.exe? I'de like to> schedule it but can't seem to get the right combination together to run it> without prompting me.For the old one, include the ODBC DSN on the command line like:radusers emeraldIf you can't use a trusted connection (you keep getting prompted fora username/password) then use this formation:radusers "emerald;uid=username;pwd=password"-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 11 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff messageFrom: "Dale E. Reed Jr." Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:58:37 -0700Fernando M. Kiernan wrote:> > Please give us a more detailed description of this feature> (specifically for a USR-TC) because with choosed the standard version> thinnking there is not a reason to choose the Enterprise (we don't use> proxy, nor plan to use SNMP), but this feature may change our point of view.> Currently, not by itself. Livingston PMs will send a reboot accounting> message that RadiusNT knows and will clear all lines for that NAS. We> have SNMP extensions for RadiusNT that can verify the port status on> the fly. This has been tested with USR and Livingston gear so far. We> are working on support for some of the others (like Ascend).If you have an enterprise license and have SNMP configured andworking, RadiusNT can make SNMP requests to verify whether the data in the calls online for that user is correct or not. It willNOT update the calls online. Its just verify whether the user isstill on-line as listed by the calls online. The goal is toprevent any false denial, rather than prevent 100% concurrency.I'll see about updating the current 2.5 docs to include informationon this SNMP feature as well.-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 12 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff messageFrom: "Mike Stankavich" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:17:33 -0700Dale,I'd really like to implement this feature too. I've been very concernedabout false concurrency denials. I'm using USR Total Control equipment.Mike Stankavich, CTONorFab/ISP, Inc.921 SW Washington StPortland OR 97205email: mike@ethergate.comwww - business: http://www.ethergate.comwww - personal: http://users.ethergate.com/mike(503) 972-2810 office(503) 972-2823 fax-----Original Message-----From: Dale E. Reed Jr. To: radiusnt@iea-software.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 2:16 PMSubject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff messageFernando M. Kiernan wrote:>> Please give us a more detailed description of this feature> (specifically for a USR-TC) because with choosed the standard version> thinnking there is not a reason to choose the Enterprise (we don't use> proxy, nor plan to use SNMP), but this feature may change our point ofview.> Currently, not by itself. Livingston PMs will send a reboot accounting> message that RadiusNT knows and will clear all lines for that NAS. We> have SNMP extensions for RadiusNT that can verify the port status on> the fly. This has been tested with USR and Livingston gear so far. We> are working on support for some of the others (like Ascend).If you have an enterprise license and have SNMP configured andworking, RadiusNT can make SNMP requests to verify whether thedata in the calls online for that user is correct or not. It willNOT update the calls online. Its just verify whether the user isstill on-line as listed by the calls online. The goal is toprevent any false denial, rather than prevent 100% concurrency.I'll see about updating the current 2.5 docs to include informationon this SNMP feature as well.--Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQsInternet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 13 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: Radius not receiving logoff messageFrom: "Dale E. Reed Jr." Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:36:55 -0700CPD- Jr wrote:> > Where can I get some information on how to implement these SNMP> extensions?> > Currently, not by itself. Livingston PMs will send a reboot accounting> > message that RadiusNT knows and will clear all lines for that NAS. We> > have SNMP extensions for RadiusNT that can verify the port status on> > the fly. This has been tested with USR and Livingston gear so far. We> > are working on support for some of the others (like Ascend).I'll work on the documentation during the next couple of days to includethe SNMP checking information. I didn't realize that it wasn't in thecurrent docs.-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 14 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Radius dicionaryFrom: jjw@cvc.netDate: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:19:52 -0700 I have just upgraded a Portmaster3 to ComOS 3.8b19 which requires 3lines to be added to the dictionary as follows: ATTRIBUTE Class 25 string ATTRIBUTE Vendor-Specific 26 string VALUE Service-Type Call-Check 10I am running Emerald 2.1, Radius 2.5. The first two lines are in thedictionary, where and how do I put in the 3rd line. I have been runingin -x15 mode and keep getting a (Received unknown attribute 77) in eachrecord that is produced from this Portmaster.Thank YouJohn Witheyjjw@cvc.netCVC Internet..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 15 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: User RestrictionsFrom: Tim Ballingall Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:26:36 +1000Hi,I was wondering if Radius has any facility to restrict user access toparticular hosts. I have a Cisco 2511 & I can put IP filters that block access from aparticular address to any other address.Would it be feasible to assign a specific IP address to one user & thenapply my IP filters to this address & thus the user as well ?ThanksMazda Australia takes every precaution to ensure email messages are virus free. For complete protection, you should virus test this message...------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 16 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAPFrom: "Dale E. Reed Jr." Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:46:49 -0700> Terry Bomersbach wrote:> > Sorry, guess I just explained the problem but didn't clarify how it's> a problem. I need to know how to setup RadiusNT to accept PAP, CHAP,> MS-CHAP, Clear Text, etc.RadiusNT 2.5 will support PAP, CHAP, and Clear Text (which is typicallyPAP, unless you are using a terminal). MS-CHAP is not supported atthis time and isn't on the drawing board.-- Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 17 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: RE: Text backup from database - moreFrom: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:31:02 -0400Please ignore my ignorance :)I must have missed something somewhere when following this thread. I wasunder the impression this utility created a text backup file from DB. Wheredoes it put the file and what does it call it? How can I control it'splacement?ThanksRobb-----Original Message-----From: radiusnt-request@iea-software.com[mailto:radiusnt-request@iea-software.com]On Behalf Of Dale E. Reed Jr.Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 5:11 PMTo: radiusnt@iea-software.comSubject: Re: Text backup from database - morerbryn@cape-fear.net wrote:>> What is the proper command line syntax for radusers.exe? I'de like to> schedule it but can't seem to get the right combination together to run it> without prompting me.For the old one, include the ODBC DSN on the command line like:radusers emeraldIf you can't use a trusted connection (you keep getting prompted fora username/password) then use this formation:radusers "emerald;uid=username;pwd=password"--Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)_________________________________________________________________ IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 18 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAPFrom: "Terry Bomersbach" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:02:25 -0500Okay, but CHAP is returning a reject to the NAS and I can't find out why.Nor do I even know where to look. This is the first RRAS that we areimplementing.Anyone have an answer as to why RadiusNT is returning a reject? Thepassword is showing "CHAP" in the debug mode.-----Original Message-----From: Dale E. Reed Jr. To: radiusnt@iea-software.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 7:23 PMSubject: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAP>> Terry Bomersbach wrote:>>>> Sorry, guess I just explained the problem but didn't clarify how it's>> a problem. I need to know how to setup RadiusNT to accept PAP, CHAP,>> MS-CHAP, Clear Text, etc.>>RadiusNT 2.5 will support PAP, CHAP, and Clear Text (which is typically>PAP, unless you are using a terminal). MS-CHAP is not supported at>this time and isn't on the drawing board.>>-->Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)>_________________________________________________________________> IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs> Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com..------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------.| Message 19 |'------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------'Subject: RE: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAPFrom: Chris Thomas Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:33:49 +0800Ok, so you understand that RadiusNT can't use MS-CHAP. Therefore youwould have gone looking for information on how to force NT to use acompatable authentication protocol such as CHAP or PAP. You would havethen found that you need to force NT to use PAP, and you would havefound the articlehttp://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q172/2/16.asp on theMicrosoft Knowledge Base. Nope, sounds like you are still trying to force RadiusNT to use MS-CHAP.Read Dale's e-mail again, then read the above again and give up on CHAP.Chris> -----Original Message-----> From: Terry Bomersbach [mailto:terryb@the-cia.net]> Sent: Wednesday, 19 August 1998 10:02> To: radiusnt@iea-software.com> Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAP> > > Okay, but CHAP is returning a reject to the NAS and I can't > find out why.> Nor do I even know where to look. This is the first RRAS that we are> implementing.> > Anyone have an answer as to why RadiusNT is returning a reject? The> password is showing "CHAP" in the debug mode.> > -----Original Message-----> From: Dale E. Reed Jr. > To: radiusnt@iea-software.com > Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 7:23 PM> Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION RRAS AND CHAP> > > >> Terry Bomersbach wrote:> >>> >> Sorry, guess I just explained the problem but didn't > clarify how it's> >> a problem. I need to know how to setup RadiusNT to accept > PAP, CHAP,> >> MS-CHAP, Clear Text, etc.> >> >RadiusNT 2.5 will support PAP, CHAP, and Clear Text (which > is typically> >PAP, unless you are using a terminal). MS-CHAP is not supported at> >this time and isn't on the drawing board.> >> >--> >Dale E. Reed Jr. (daler@iea-software.com)> >_________________________________________________________________> > IEA Software, Inc. | RadiusNT, Emerald, and NT FAQs> > Internet Solutions for Today | http://www.iea-software.com>