Lee,
I have to agree with Jeff's statement here. I purchased post.office =
about two months ago at the recommendation of participants of this list. =
Now I find that there is a security hole in the software and rather =
than getting it fixed I am told that I will have to deal with it or =
purchase post.office 3.0. I too am originally a programmer by trade and =
when I have a problem with my programs I am responsible for fixing the =
problem - AT MY EXPENSE. I want my business to grow and thrive and that =
will not happen if I tell my customers to purchase the new version and =
it will fix all your problems. This is indeed extortion and it seems to =
me that there are laws against extortion.
Regards,
David M. Lay
Dlay@amtelgrp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Woods [SMTP:jeff@delta.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 1996 5:29 PM
To: Lee Levitt
Cc: ntisp@emerald.iea.com
Subject: RE: post.office 3.0 is coming
Lee, I'd like to point out that I consider your company's position =
regarding
the spammer fix as nothing short of extortion by saying that it will be
included ONLY in the 3.0 release, and not sent back to the 2.0 version. =
I
said that your lack of desire to go into revision control and produce a =
hot
fix was THE key reason I'm mad as hell, and that's true; and that's =
directly
related to the pricing issue. IN essence, you are saying to me:
"We know we have a serious problem regarding spammers being able to =
assume
control of our software and use your bandwidth with impunity. We're =
willing
to fix this, after a few months of research. All it will take is =
upgrading
your license at a cost of another thousand dollars today, plus $2 a =
mailbox
in the future...."
Again, that's BULLSHIT, no matter how you try to cover it up with =
perfume.
You have a severe security problem in post.office 2.0, and I deserve a =
free
and fast fix to it. Whether I upgrade to 3.0 or not, I am still =
entitled to
use that 2.0 license, unlimited, and I deserve a fix to such a serious
security flaw. It is your company's unwillingness to even acknowledge =
this
BASIC TENET of software support that will be your undoing.
At 10:09 PM 3/22/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>I bought an unlimited license. Charge me a reasonable UPGRADE fee, =
but
>>leave my license alone. Retroactive pricing changes to your existing
>>customer base does nothing but piss off the existing customer base. =
New
>>buyers know what they're getting, and also have the right to expect =
that the
>>entire BASIS of the license won't change either.
>
>You're not the first to say this. I appreciate the input...can't say =
any
>more right now. Please don't consider that an evasion, just that we're
>working on it.
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