Re: relay spam

Brad Albrecht ( (no email) )
Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:35:47 -0800

Actually, if you see REAL spam from hotmail, they are very responsive about
removing that user. Unfortunately, since it is so big (like aol.com), most
people just put a bogus reply email from AOL.com or hotmail.com. nothing
you can do about that. Watch the headers and block the people that support
spam. You will find a suprising trend in what servers it really comes
from...

On a similar note, if you allow your customers to send mail as if they are
from another account (like if I want to send mail, with a return address of
my hotmail account), then what stops anyone from saying they are from
hotmail? Who's ligit? If you find a way to block it, there will be a way
around your block. I don't think that even legislation can help at this
point.

Brad Albrecht
Computer Innovations Online
http://www.cio.net/
Skagit Valleys' Premier Internet Service Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt A. Butzin, DDS <kurt@molar.net>
To: ntisp@emerald.iea.com <ntisp@emerald.iea.com>
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: relay spam

>It got so bad with spam from hotmail that we have blocked the whole domain.
>I've received exactly two complaints after doing from clients you said they
>couldn't send them mail from home where they have hotmail accounts. We
have
>also noticed an increase in the use of incrementing numbers for name and
>domain both, I don't know how to eliminate these, any ideas?
>
>Kurt A. Butzin, DDS Molarnet Technologies, Inc
>President 1936 Bay Street
>kurt@molar.net Saginaw, MI 48602
>http://www.molar.net (517) 249-4638
>
>Authorized iPSwitch WebVar (http://www.molar.net/ipswitch/index.html)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Barrett <john@asacomp.com>
>To: ntisp@emerald.iea.com <ntisp@emerald.iea.com>
>Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 3:35 PM
>Subject: Re: relay spam
>
>
>>Mitch Wagers wrote:
>>>
>>> Members,
>>>
>>> I just thought I would try and be informative...we got hit *hard* last
>>> night with nearly 3000 emails that were relayed through our system.
Now,
>>> we are getting messages from the people that were recipients seriously
>>> complaining about the SPAM originating from us! However, it didn't
>>> originate from us and we now have a block put on *.mymail.net because
>that
>>> is one of the locations it originated from. I've also locked down all
>relay
>>> mail except from our local hosts/domains so hopefully nothing like this
>>> will happen again. I encourage ALL of you that run mail servers to do
>this!
>>> Individuals/companies that do this make me incredibly angry, but what
can
>>> you do?
>>>
>>> The message pertained to "MAKE MONEY FAST" schemes, of course.
>>> Owners were ronh@hotmail.com, whether that is a valid address I have no
>>> idea, but he's blocked too.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mitch
>>>
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>>> NTISP Mailing List listserver@emerald.iea.com
>>
>>Good luck with this one Mitch, The ones we got used an incrementing
>>address. We've tried but he always finds a way back in. He does not
>>relay off of us but he sends junk to our users regularly. We get the
>>bounce off of AOL and Hotmail both. It's not like I can block the whole
>>domains...
>>--
>>John T. Barrett
>>Sr. Engineer / Webmaster
>>ASA Network Computing
>>(614)476-9876
>>john@asacomp.com
>>webmaster@asacomp.com
>>
>>http://www.asacomp.com
>>"Bringing the world a little bit closer, One Customer at a time."
>>
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