Sorry Mitch but I disagree... I think it's another have's versus the =
have not's ...... IF you are close to a POP and IF you understand the =
technology and IF you get a contract in time you can get a bargain... =
and it won't die out because the equipment doesn't break and the =
contract's will be too good a deal to break... I predict it will be =
sorta like season basketball tickets to a sold out program (I'm in =
Lexington KY, GO CATS...).... once the lines are sold there will be a =
waiting list forever..........
Lets face it the whole ISP game is a gamble based on overselling =
bandwidth. We all know people who get greedy who's service suffers, and =
those who are altruistic who go belly up cause they can't pay the =
bills.... xDSL is just another stick stirring the mud. What is your =
magic ratio?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell B. Wagers [SMTP:mwagers@ocsnet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 10:02 PM
To: ntisp@emerald.iea.com
Subject: Re: ADSL
To make things short...both parties are right here, you CAN produce =
longer
distances through signal modifiers at certain locations, but copies of
copies are always less quality than the original.
You have to look at the physical side of things...which, most =
importantly,
is copper wire, not stranded copper wire. If you have stranded wire in
your home or business, then you must have some enormous monetary =
resources.
You also have to take into account the Fiber/Sonet side of things =
between
differing Telco's and how effectively they implement Sonet rings, which,
I'm sorry to say, is pitiful for the most part.=20
I know this is less than informative, but I'm not about to hit low-level
detail on a mailing list, it's just not the thing to do. But, this =
should
make some of you look at what you are implementing! As I said before, =
ADSL
will die out or at least fizzle to a close end.
Regards,
Mitch Wagers
At 09:46 PM 1/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just went to ComNet today and spoke with several manufacturers =
marketing
>their ADSL solutions, and everyone without fail insisted that the =
distance
>limitations were from the host equipment to the end user equipment. I =
asked
>them each specifically if the distance was calculated from each site to =
the
>CO, with the distance between COs ignored and they said absolutely not!
>They said that the circuit was like a dry loop circuit with the copper =
pairs
>going from point A to point B un-interrupted.
>
>That's not what we have been hearing here in other posts, and I don't =
claim
>to know myself, that's just was the boys in the suits are saying here =
in DC.
>
>The longest demonstration I saw today was 20K feet, and the connection =
was
>under 128K in both directions. So if what they are saying is correct, =
and
>you can't connect a customer 20 miles away (using the 5000ft to CO, and
>8000ft to CO, with no penalty from CO to CO method) then I don't see =
how
>ADSL is going to be a feasible solution outside of the densely =
populated
>metropolitan areas. If it will work like that, and the sales boys =
don't
>know what they're talking about (I know, I know) then we'd all better =
start
>looking for the solution we're going to implement!
>
>Mike Davis
>DCS Online
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael R. Conder <mconder@xts.net>
>To: ntisp@emerald.iea.com <ntisp@emerald.iea.com>
>Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 1:23 AM
>Subject: Re: ADSL
>
>
>>> A lot of news is out about ADSL. How do other ISPs feel about ADSL? =
Are
>>> the small independent ISPs going to be able to play a part in ADSL? =
With
>>> ADSL and cable modems are the small ISPs going out of business and a
>>> monopoly will emerge?
>>>
>>> Comments welcomed....
>>>
>>> Marvin Anglin
>>> manglin@atlonline.com
>>> Atlanta On-Line InterNet, Inc.
>>> 770-955-3000
>
>
>
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