RE: (Tax Dollars putting me out!)

Pacific Internet ( "Pacific )
Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:08:15 +0800

Fine, got your message, so lets set the Techies aside and those who only
provide service within 10 miles, what about NETCOM, sure one of the larger
services? They provide nationwide access for 19.95 a month, NO hourly fees,
NO maximum, so what now? Where does MCI fit in, does it mean if you are a
BIG ONE you have a better service? Sure not. Look at the nations worst
services AOL and Compuserve.
My advice to all students, sign up with NETCOM .

At 10:29 AM 7/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Wait a minute. We don't care about our dialup access, we care about the
>livelyhood of our business!! I only hold accounts with my competitors, as
>they hold ones with me (I actually have a John Doe subscriber). I could
>care less about the big boys, I already have enough bad things to say about
>Unless your really pounding the pavement with a low rate, most people don't
>notice except for the techie wierdos that most ISPs don't want anyway (i.e.
>they change their setting all the time when they're not on for 12hrs a
>day....they want to run ten thousand perl scripts that crash the
>server....they finally demand a refund because they can only get 32K on a
>33.6 from 10 miles away). Most people decide to get on the net, then they
>just call the first person who seems reasonable. Just advertise alot and
>you'll survive. There is enough meat to feed the table.
>At 09:01 PM 7/23/97 +0800, you wrote:
>>Hello there you "BS" you should not abuse this list with your reply.
>>Anyway, MCI , AT&T, Compuserve, AOL all of them are useless, the best you
>>can do always get a PPP connection from your mearest (even smallest) ISP,
>>which mostly charge between US$ 10.- - 19.95 per month, no limit.
>>If nothing arround, the second choice is always NETCOM at 19.95/month
>>nobody can beat them across the USA.
>>At 11:56 PM 7/22/97 -0000, you wrote:
>>>On Tuesday, July 22, 1997 10:02 PM, Jeff
>>>[] wrote:
>>>> I am afraid that you have a few misconceptions on the
>>>> peachnet system is
>>>> setup.
>>>> >>I have no problem with competition BUT, please don't
>>>> >>my tax dollars
>>>> >>to subsidize my very large competitor! He really
>>>> >>have to have
>>>> >>it! I know there are companies who offer $9.95 mo rates
>>>> >>but they are not
>>>> >>getting my tax dollars to do it.
>>>> They recieve no money from the school or goverment for
>>>> that matter. The
>>>> school mearing neogiates a monthly rate with CampusMCI to
>>>> supply thier
>>>> students with cheap access.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>They put out some flyers with the info. They ran out so
>>>> >>the library made
>>>> >>copies on the library copier. Then had the nerve to say
>>>> >>that they
>>>> >>recieved no compensation for the service and that MCI
>>>> >>was responsable
>>>> >>for everything.
>>>> >>
>>>> That is correct. CampusMCI is a corporate divsion that
>>>> handles specialize
>>>> services targeted towards students.
>>>> >>By housing the pops in state run institutions, using
>>>> >>state paid
>>>> >>employees and garnering free advertising thru library
>>>> >>press releases I
>>>> >>have a serious problem keeping my cool! They actually
>>>> >>had a 1/4 page
>>>> >>press release in the newspaper called "A Spotlight on
>>>> >>our Library" to
>>>> >>anounce the new service, didn't cost them a thing. The
>>>> >>phone has been
>>>> >>ringing ever since asking us to meet that price. They
>>>> >>don't see the
>>>> >>difference. They say they never use more than 60 hours.
>>>> >>MCI put in a
>>>> >>free 56K line for the library in house users and a T1
>>>> >>with 25 lines in
>>>> >>the closet for commercial access to start with.
>>>> >>
>>>> That was a request from the state of georgia. They ( your
>>>> voted in
>>>> representives) wanted to give internet access to anyone
>>>> would wants it.
>>>> Still the pricing scheme that CampusMCI uses is the same
>>>> one they use
>>>> pretty much anywhere that a school has requested that
>>>> CampusMCI supply
>>>> service to thier students.
>>>> >>We are a small rural ISP. New subscriber signups have
>>>> >>all but ceased and
>>>> >>it has only been available for two weeks.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Anyone who becomes a library card holder is eligable
>>>> >>this discounted
>>>> >>access. For the consumer it is a great value up front
>>>> >>but little does
>>>> >>the person realize we employee (8) eight people! How
>>>> >>long before I go
>>>> >>out of business do they infiltrate other areas and do
>>>> >>the same thing?
>>>> >>When the contract is up will the price stay the same? I
>>>> >>DOUBT IT
>>>> Well that is what your voted reprentives wanted but that
>>>> is not a discouted
>>>> price that is just CampusMCI standard pricing scheme.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Are there any other ISPs that see a problem with this?
>>>> >>plan to
>>>> >>investigate further.... I have spoken with reps from
>>>> >>State board of
>>>> >>Regents. I was given some answers but nothing
>>>> >>satisfatory.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Am I over reacting here? Anyone else see this as an
>>>> >>unfair advantage in
>>>> >>the market? Feel free to email me privately. I'm
>>>> >>for any info I
>>>> >>can to assess this.
>>>> I don't think you are over reacting but, since campusmci
>>>> pricing is
>>>> standard where ever they go you are going to have a hard
>>>> time proving that
>>>> they gained an unfair advantage.
>>>> >>Thanks for listening,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Carl Delabar
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