RE: PM, MAX, or USR

Mitchell B. Wagers ( (no email) )
Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:41:46 -0800

It doesn't cost a lot more, unless you buy from the wrong people. IOS
upgrades are free if you purchase the product and know what you need and
request that when you purchase. You have to KNOW you need that little PO
number that your retailer used.

At 08:23 PM 3/24/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We use Portmaster 3's here in Europe on ISDN PRI's
>with great success. K56Flex nearly never connects under
>40k here. The product runs very stable. Never had a crash
>or reboot of the PM3. For the rest we are very satisfied with
>the PM3 and its features now that COMOS 3.8 stands before
>the door. We also used PM2 before which were nearly perfect
>products for analog dial-ups.
>
>In my opinion CISCO also offers a very good RAS with the
>AS5300 however it costs a lot more, not forgetting the software
>upgrades.
>
>From USR Total control rack I heard a lot of problems and lack of
>important features as OSPF.
>
>This is only my peronal view,
>
>Christian
>
>At 02:05 PM 3/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I also like the ASCEND MAX but just read an article at the BOARDWATCH site
>>where the X2 series (supported by the 3com/USR product) regularly supported
>>40k+ connections but the Kflex modems rarely got over 35k.
>>
>>Since the main reason (in our case) to go to one of these solutions is to
>>support 56k dial-up (as well as ISDN) the Boardwatch testing seems to be
>>heavily stacked in favor of X2 over Kflex. In addition in terms of sheer
>>numbers the USR sportsters are fairly predominant in our area and
>>interoperability seems to be non-existant.
>>
>>Anybody out there have experience with both flavors of 56k? Am I
>>misinterpreting what I read on Boardwatch?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew J. Lillie [mailto:andy@jps.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:53 PM
>>> To: ntisp@emerald.iea.com; ntisp@iea-software.com
>>> Subject: Re: PM, MAX, or USR
>>>
>>>
>>> I've worked with all of these products. I don't know that I can say which
>>> the most popular is, but I definitely like the Ascend Max product the best
>>> for a number of reasons:
>>> First, it is way more compact than the USR product, and thus takes up less
>>> space and is easier to transport.
>>> Second, the first time config is simpler
>>> Third, they seem to be more easily suitable to special case scenarios,
>>like
>>> doing FrameRelay, K56, and ISDN out of one chassis.
>>> Last, maintainence can all be done from the console (or telnet session)
>>very
>>> easily, unlike the USR or even the PM3 which tend to be easier (or perhaps
>>> need) configuration via an SNMP client.
>>>
>>> Granted, this is just my subjective feelings on dealing with the products,
>>> but I think a look up on the technical specs should also put the Ascend as
>>> the front runner.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrew J. Lillie
>>> JPS.Net Network Operations
>>> andy@jps.net
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Lange <radadmin@palacenet.net>
>>> To: ntisp@iea-software.com <ntisp@iea-software.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 9:16 AM
>>> Subject: PM, MAX, or USR
>>>
>>>
>>> >HI
>>> >
>>> >We are getting ready to go digital here, (never been done in this GTE
>>> >territory). We are going to convert 145 lines to digital, On GTE's GTD-5
>>> >switch.
>>> >
>>> >I am now using PM2e30's with USR Sportsters and all is well. I am
>>> >following the Livingston list and see many people having problems with
>>> >their PM3's. I am sure the ones without problems are quiet.
>>> >
>>> >What is the more popular product, PM3, Ascend Max ?, USR Total Control
>>> >w/Hyper Cards?
>>> >What are the issues to be dealt with for "Emerald".
>>> >Any suggestions on line padding with each vendor?
>>> >
>>> >Anyone using AAC Tigris?
>>> >
>>> >I am wondering if there is a list for USR & Ascend Products.
>>> >
>>> >All info on this subject is appreciated.
>>> >
>>> >JOhn :}
>>> >
>>> >
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