Re: PM, MAX, or USR

Mitchell B. Wagers ( (no email) )
Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:03:32 -0800

He's got an EXCELLENT point here. To argue, I would run Cisco...and like he
said, it depends on other factors much beyond "what is most popular."

At 12:48 PM 3/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
> First, please forget the "what is most popular". If it was popular to
>jump over a bridge into the river, would you jump? Please evaluate the
>needs of your company and make the decision based on the facts and not the
>hype. For example, describe the geographic layout of your network. That
>would have to deal with port density. Are you looking to deploy xDSL today
>at a low cost? Are you looking to provide VOIP today at a low cost? If
>you are not geographically disperse then VOIP may not help. If you are
>geographically dense then xDSL is an excellent broadband option.
> I have used Cisco, Livingston, Ascend, and US Robotics access
>concentrators. I have standardized on US Robotics, based on our business
>model. I am running xDSL (680K~3MB connections) from some POPs, using VOIP
>to backhaul tech support calls, and soon to offer VOIP toll calls to my
>customers. If your 145 lines are all in the same city, as I suspect the
>case. I would get the USRobotics new HiPer bundle with HiPer Arc chassis.
>You would need three of the bundles, and place all the cards into a single
>chassis. The bundle will cost you 10,126.00 each. You will have Dual
>Power, Backup Router Cards, and 142 ports if you use PRI and 144 ports if
>you use T-1s. Easy SNMP management. With the spare chassis you can run
>tons of xDSL ports for a cost of less than 450 per xDSL.
>At 11:19 AM 3/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>We are getting ready to go digital here, (never been done in this GTE
>>territory). We are going to convert 145 lines to digital, On GTE's GTD-5
>>I am now using PM2e30's with USR Sportsters and all is well. I am
>>following the Livingston list and see many people having problems with
>>their PM3's. I am sure the ones without problems are quiet.
>>What is the more popular product, PM3, Ascend Max ?, USR Total Control
>>w/Hyper Cards?
>>What are the issues to be dealt with for "Emerald".
>>Any suggestions on line padding with each vendor?
>>Anyone using AAC Tigris?
>>I am wondering if there is a list for USR & Ascend Products.
>>All info on this subject is appreciated.
>>JOhn :}
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