Re: ASP - only works with IIS ?

Mitchell B. Wagers ( (no email) )
Tue, 06 Jan 1998 19:17:36 -0800

Hm...maybe I chose the wrong words, but code rights relate to just about
the same thing as pladgerism. Copying verbatim is prohibited and
punishable by law, same with most any software product that is licensed.
If you notice that small little Active Server Pages Logo on WebSite Pro
2.0+'s ASP Tab and then perhaps ask O'Reilly, you will probably have some
proof. If you even *read* my following post about "Thank you, I didn't
know what (engine) they used." then maybe you wouldn't have gotten so
jumpy. For one, I wasn't using "code rights" as a legal term, but if
someone steals your Stock Ticker from your home page, just happening to
have a copyright, patent, restriction, or other form of protection, then
you have rights to that code. I don't believe I offered legal ADVICE
*anywhere* in my posting.

Just to throw this one out there, the recently passed law concerning
"Internet" related (art) or (work), as defined in the respective papers
includes (application) code.
Nonetheless, I really don't give a crap, I only know that tons of software
manufacturers use "code" that isn't even remotely theirs and soon enough,
that will stop.

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There are also restrictions on the license which might get in people's
>way if they tried to implement a compatible feature. For example the
>license may prohibit using the engine for purposes of reverse
>engineering it. Still there is enough documentation that that's
>likely to not be a problem. And if Microsoft tried enforcing license
>restrictions like that they would possibly be invalidated by the courts.\
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I have no idea how you got this, but there are restrictions pertaining to
this.
This is the end of my correspondence with this posting, although I'd be
happy to continue this in private. It's a "been there, done that" situation.

At 02:15 PM 1/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Mitch Wagers <mwagers@ocsnet.net> writes:
>> Microsoft has code rights to ASP, any server that is not Microsoft/IIS
>> should carry an agreement with MS as to the ability to host ASP.
>
>I challenge you to find a law granting something called "code rights".
>
>There's something called copyright, but that would only apply if
>another server were distributing a copy or derivative of Microsoft's
>work. It wouldn't stop people from making compatible engines or making
>their servers compatible with Microsoft's engine.
>
>There are also restrictions on the license which might get in people's
>way if they tried to implement a compatible feature. For example the
>license may prohibit using the engine for purposes of reverse
>engineering it. Still there is enough documentation that that's
>likely to not be a problem. And if Microsoft tried enforcing license
>restrictions like that they would possibly be invalidated by the courts.
>
>Microsoft does not, to my knowledge have a patent on any process ASPs
>implement. And any blocking patent would be laughably invalid because
>of prior art.
>
>Please don't offer legal advice based on imagined rights and laws.
>
>greg
>
>
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